I just received a box of goodies from one of our local BMW club members - A pass on from someone who restored some bikes in the 80's .
1. With that came a Denfeld carrier - I would like to find out if this is correct for my R50/2 - 1965 and if so how to install it correctly .I have taken some photos of the carrier and placed on the bike .
2.Also with the box came two speedo's - on marked 120 mph and the other 140mph - the dates at the back refer to 61 and 65 . - Any info on that ?
3. Lastly - there was a chromed dipstick also included - The top one is the new part and the bottom one is the one currently in my R50 - Any light on what bike it was for . The dipstick seems the same but the "wingnut " is bigger?
1. It looks like you have the carrier in the right spot. Two arms go foward to attach to where the fender stays attach. There is a piece that goes across the rear fender just behind the seat. Be careful you don't scratch the paint.
2. Actually, one speedo is in mph and the other is in kph, right? I would think that the mph one is correct. What is the final drive ratio on the bike? If it is 25/8, then the speedo with W 1.2 should be right. Plus, if it's stamped 65, that seems the most appropriate.
3. My R69S has the smaller dipstick handle...the other one just doesn't look right.
I have the same rack on one of my bikes and it works great. I think that the original rubber pieces were orange and you may still be able to get them along with the original style rubber strap and clasps from Benchmark Works. The rack is probably worth at least $150 in nice shape. It looks like yours is mounted correctly. Even though the rack will feel very secure when mounted properly, don't carry too heavy a load. If you really weigh it down it will dent your fender where it mounts right behind the seat. It looks like you received some nice parts. The extra kilometer speedo will sell easily on eBay. The aftermarket dipsticks don't seem to be too popular with the collector crowd. Also, if you use the non-original dipstick, be sure it reads accurately and don't over fill the crankcase. Good Luck!
...the dipstick with the big handle is for a bike made between 1951 and 1957 or so: NICE item!...
...the dipstick with the large handle is for a 1951-1957 BMW, a somewhat difficult version to find. The earliest just have a level indication, but after '52 or so, there is some writing on the stem telling you not to overfill the crankcase...the first type is really hard to find: NICE item...
Was the km one for a R25 ?
I don't think so...my R25/2 has a KM speedo with a top number of 120. Possibly the 140 kph speedo is for the R26 or R27??
This webpage shows a number of KM speedos with W = 1.0 for them; given the slow top speed, I think it would have been for an R26 or R27.
BMW's /2 factory accessory catalogue shows two types of racks: the Denfeld and another type which was manufactured by the Leitz company. The Denfeld was the more expensive of the two. Leitz also made other accessories back in the day such as chromed luggage carriers for Porsches. I have two Leitz racks and they do not require any drilling for installation. The part of the rack that bolts to the fender utilizes the two rear holes of the four that were already drilled by the factory. Are you sure you need to drill holes for the Denfeld?
I don't have the catalogue anymore. It was a re-print that I bought from Roland Slabon as a gift for someone. Shoulda bought two! In any case, I thought that all /2's had four holes pre-drilled in the rear fender for use in attaching a pillion pad. Maybe I'm mistaken about that but my '69 R60 and my '66 R27 both have them as well as my pals' '64 R60 and '67 R50. The bikes came from the factory with small, black plastic (or rubber?) plugs installed in the holes, so they're kind of obscure. The two holes closest to the rear are actually partially hidden by a bench seat. From the photos, your rack looks as if it is intended to utilize these two holes. Are you completely sure they're not there? Try playing some more with the rack adjustment before you either use these holes or drill (ouch!) new ones. If the side braces on the rack are like the Leitz side braces, there is a lot of adjustment there and it affects the alignment of the top brace that bolts into the fender.
Carel - - Aha! Excellent! I should have mentioned the small plates that are welded to the inside of the fender but I never even considered that the holes been filled in somewhere along the line, which is apparently what's happened with yours. When you install the rack, leave all the bolts loose until you get the proper fitment, then tighten them up. You might also want to consider putting a couple of layers of something like electrical tape for paint protection on the underside of the part of the rack that bolts to the fender. I've seen Denfeld racks with the cross-piece and without it. I don't know why they did it both ways. As far as I know, it is not a model-specific characteristic. On his Bench Mark Works site under "Accessories", Vech is showing a repro Denfeld rack for $166.50 with both orange and black pads and without the cross-piece. There is also a nice close-up photo of Vech and the rack as if he were installing it.
....just catching up, here, and it sounds like you've got it all worked out regarding the rack mounting. Good luck with your bike and your new parts. I think that the Denfeld rack looks nice when mounted with the bench seat and is a very functional period accessory.
Yeah, those old prices will make you crazy. The R69S, brand new, was something less than $1500. I remember having to save up to buy a wide seat for $45. A Hella spotlight mirror was about twenty bucks and was thought to be an extravagance (and come to think of it, it still is).
Well adjusted for inflation the "real" prices have stayed pretty flat.
$100 from the 60s is worth about $800 (8x) today's money. Meaning by today's prices they might be $12000. Not too different from the prices that new BMW twins sell for nowadays.
It's always been a "gentleman's" (ie rich) man's bike it seems.
You're right, the prices of new bikes have stayed more or less flat, but authentic accessory prices have gone bonkers. That $20 Hella spotlight mirror is now a $1000 vintage accessory (NOS), a 50:1 increase. By the same multiplier, the $1500 bike would, if NOS, bring $75,000.