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miller6997
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Cleaning out the basement over the weekend, I came across a box of old Bing carbs that I picked up for almost nothing at some time in my ancient past. I thought that I might cannibalize them for parts, but they have been buried for twenty years and I never found any use for them.

Here are the numbers:

1/24/116
1/24/149
1/24/151
1/24/152
1/25/2
1/26/71

Does anyone recognize what these might be for? I hate to just toss them out. The bodies are good on most of them and they all have salvageable bits.

Jon

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Allan Atherton has a copy of

Allan Atherton has a copy of the Bing manual for the older carbs on his website:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roundel/66174400/

I don't see the 1/24/116 carb listed...have no idea what a 1/25/2 carb is. Interesting...you have a carb to an R50S...might be something a bit rare??

There is another website, BingPower or something...they have a more extensive list of carbs and specs. It's not fully complete, but another source:

http://www.bingpower.de/german/service/einstellblaetter.html

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...1/25/2 is for a Zundapp

...1/25/2 is for a Zundapp KS601, a truly fine machine...that's the motorcycle that BMW copied, but could never quite get it right...Smile

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If you have a left side carb

If you have a left side carb for a R69s I am interested in purchasing it! I always wondered why the Zundapp looks so similar to BMW's. How did their chain drive primary/transmissions hold up? I thnk the BMW one is a more simple/robust unit by the looks of things

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what BING carbs do I have

Bing

1/24/116 ........Zundapp Bella 204 scooter (?)
1/24/149 ........R50/2 1960 -9
1/24/151 ........ R60/2 1966
1/24/152 ......... R60/2 1966
1/25/2 ............. ? ? ? ?
1/26/71 ............ R50s/2 1960-2

you should contact Bing USA for accurate listing
http://bingcarburetor.com/bmw/bmw.html

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...I was trying to be cute:

...I was trying to be cute: their both fine machines we should all be happy to have for a time in our lives. The front end, gearbox, and rear plungers are more robust on a Zundapp, but the mainframe is much better on the corresponding BMW (R67). The R68 is faster than the sport model KS601, and more expensive. IMO, the BMW"s are much more attractive, and as investments there's no comparison...

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Zündapps

I've had the pleasure of riding a couple of them: a 1938 K500 and a 1952 KS601. To the rider, a Zündapp makes a BMW feel flimsy--they are that robustly built. I've been told that the chains in the transmission last a long time because of the sealed environment, and that when one does let go, it's an easy repair without the need for heat, special tools and precise shimming.

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I am impressed. In a very

I am impressed. In a very short time, based on replies so far, I have the following matches:

1/24/116 .....Zundapp Bella 204 scooter
1/24/149 .....R50/2 1960-9
1/24/151 .....R60/2 1966
1/24/152 .....R60/2 1966
1/25/2 ........Zundapp KS 601 (!)
1/26/71 .......R50s/2 1960-2

I'll give the R60 versions ( 1/24/151 and 1/24/152) to a friend who is restoring one of those. The R50 version (1/24/149) goes gratis to the first person who contacts me (use the SEND PM tab) and is willing to pay the postage. If you know Zundapp owners who might need 1/24/116 or 1/25/2, ask them to contact me.

As for 1/26/71, I'll sit on that one for now.

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WOW. You're a pretty

WOW. You're a pretty generous guy, as old BMW carbs sell like hotcakes on eBay. Your list could fetch you at least $500, even if the carbs are missing parts. There is even a market for ratty carbs where the bottom of the float bowls are pitted and leaking. Just about any serviceable or rebuildable /2 part is worth some cash. Next time you're contemplating throwing /2 bits in the trash, please PM me and I'll buy them from you!

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Contact "the Zundapp Fool" on

Contact "the Zundapp Fool" on the web as that world seems to revolve around him.

Vince

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I paid almost nothing for

I paid almost nothing for that box of carburetors and it's been in my basement for ten years. I am trying to get out of the habit of accumulating parts that I don't need.

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Yeah, I hear you regarding

Yeah, I hear you regarding accumulating junk and all. I too had A LOT of old parts that I decided to get rid of over the past year. I was amazed after experimenting online trying to sell old BMW stuff. There were some individual items that I was ready to throw in the trash that fetched big bucks and the folks who bought some of the parts were so appreciative. Kind of an eye opener for me. In comparison, I tried selling a bunch of old two stroke Yamaha stuff and that was a big loser compared to the BMW parts. in any event, the point is that some parts for /2 bikes can be surprisingly valuable, and I will continue to make the effort to sell my surplus online. The days of spending a weekend trying to disperse stuff at the local swap meet are over for me, and it is so unusual that I'm able to make back some real cash after spending so much on bikes, cars, and hoarding parts over the years!

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I emailed Bing with the list

I emailed Bing with the list of carbs and asked for any information they could provide. They checked the record and verified the applications that we had already pieced together here. I was a little startled when they asked me to send the whole lot to them so that they could make me an offer. The deal was that I would mail them in, Bing would name a price for the lot, and if I did not like the price, I would pay for the return postage. I was not thrilled by this, and at any rate by this time they were promised to other recipients and I had no intention of reneging. I have no regrets. Just out of curiosity I kept the 1/26/71 for the R50S. I want to see what it might be worth even in its dilapidated present condition.

An interesting footnote: The Bing rep said that the bodies for all of the carbs except the 1/25/2 -- the one for the Zundapp KS601-- are still available.

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Sonofrust - the next time you

Sonofrust - the next time you have a part that someone is desperately needing to get their bike going, consider giving it to them at no cost. You will be surprised how good it makes you feel. We all know that nothing is for free these days and that is exactly why you should do it. Today its just $ $ $. I have given away many bits and pieces for free and will continue doing so. I have never regretted or needed one single bit afterwards. And you'll be surprised, the favour will be repaid when you really need or least expect it. I cannot think that 30 years ago when club members met, they sqeezed every little cent out of every bit. That is one of the reasons I choose to be part of a group sharing the same interest. Good for you Jon Miller.

BTW, if everyone had to pay for technical advice on this forum since day one we would have all been broke.

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Buying, selling, and

Buying, selling, and bartering parts is a sensible way to recoup some of the costs of fixing and maintaining these old bikes. In my own case, however, I collect parts like some people collect lint, always thinking (usually wrongly) that some day I'll find a need for them. Most of the time, it happens opportunistically and at low cost, and I end up with stuff I don't need that accumulates in the basement and gets shifted around whenever I go down to relocate the rat traps.

Actually, there are three piles down there in the dark: one for /2 parts, one for 1950s Mercedes cars (I have one of these that I bought in 1975), and a third for 1960s VW Beetles (one of these was given to me by an elderly neighbor). It's this stuff that I am inclined to pass on to someone who has a use for it. It's a kind of payback for the benefit I get from this and other discussion groups, and it sure beats messing around with trying to sell parts on ebay.

Disclaimer: If I find myself in possession of really valuable things (a NOS set of R69 pistons?) or useless bling with substantial monetary value, such as, for example, a Hella spotlight mirror or a VDO handlebar clock, you can be sure they will be sold, not donated.

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